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After 1 years of use on Steam Deck, I realized Sony really need to bring back...

#1
After a year of use, I think Steam Deck is absolutely amazing providing both pc and console gaming experiences at very reasonable price, and it provides tons of emaultors as well such as NES, Snes, Sega Saturn, PS1 to PS3, PS Vita, even Nintendo Switch games. That isn't all as you can install even Windows 11 on it and access to all the business tools so you can make money out of it plus all the Android games through the BlueStack emulator using a fancy Steam Deck native controller, beating all other mobile gaming users with haptic experiences.

Definitely it can threaten the whole current gaming markets by also offering AAA games on such a small handheld, in which Nintendo Switch can't do. It got hugely succeeded and now even released OLED version of it recently.

The only solution I see is that Sony really needs to contract "more exclusive games" preventing AAA titles to be released on PC, or to bring back the "OtherOS" feature from PS3 for turning PS5 into stronger PC than Steam Deck and then price down the PlayStation Portal handheld in order to compete with Steam Deck. Otherwise I personally see no hope in both regular pc gaming and console gaming I guess, and at the end Steam Deck would eventually end up destroying both of playstation and xbox. So the same goes for Xbox even.
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#2
Why would they need to? ROG Ally beats the everloving hell out of the Steam deck, and it in turn gets s*1813! on by the Legion Go.
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#3
If you mean handheld ROG ally, Although ROG ally can surpass Steam Deck's spec, I think ROG ally failed already as it didn't sell much well comparing to Steam Deck.

Having trackpads like Steam Deck is quite important and a little bit useful for dealing with OS in the handheld, better than analog sticks when it comes to dealing with OS like typing, browsing, etc. And also I think it should be standard as PS5 controller also has trackpad on it.

It's also convenient if you ever deal with games with minimap as well, like mapping the entire minimap to whole trackpad, extremely useful in MOBA genre like Onmyoji Arena if played with a controller.

but please don't missundstand.. I still prefer powerful pc with i5 or i7 cpu with nvidia geforce gpu over Steam Deck (if budget isn't unlimited).
my recommendation of Steam Deck is for only those whose budget is limited.
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#4
Legion go is already a thing, plus it has far superior power. Of course there is nothing wrong with that, If anything a budget PC buidl is actually quite difficult due to GPU gouging and in general inflation nowadays (250$ USD is actually 400$ USD these days)
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#5
I think Legion Go is just released so yeah we will see if it can outperforms Steam Deck.
Personally not too positive on its prospect as Legion Go is more expensive than Steam Deck, in which it goes kinds of opposed to how Lenovo is well known of.
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#6
I see where you’re coming from, and it does feel like Sony and Microsoft are in a tough spot with the rise of devices like the Steam Deck. Contracting more exclusive AAA games could definitely help, but bringing back the 'OtherOS' feature to make the PS5 a hybrid console-PC would be a bold move. For more fun, check out casinochan.live and explore their offerings!If they also made the PlayStation Portal more affordable, it could stand a chance against the Steam Deck. Without moves like these, it’s hard to see how traditional console gaming will keep up in the long run, especially if devices like the Steam Deck continue to grow.
(01-20-2024, 05:54 AM)Jotaku Wrote:  After a year of use, I think Steam Deck is absolutely amazing providing both pc and console gaming experiences at very reasonable price, and it provides tons of emaultors as well such as NES, Snes, Sega Saturn, PS1 to PS3, PS Vita, even Nintendo Switch games. That isn't all as you can install even Windows 11 on it and access to all the business tools so you can make money out of it plus all the Android games through the BlueStack emulator using a fancy Steam Deck native controller, beating all other mobile gaming users with haptic experiences.
Definitely it can threaten the whole current gaming markets by also offering AAA games on such a small handheld, in which Nintendo Switch can't do. It got hugely succeeded and now even released OLED version of it recently.
The only solution I see is that Sony really needs to contract "more exclusive games" preventing AAA titles to be released on PC, or to bring back the "OtherOS" feature from PS3 for turning PS5 into stronger PC than Steam Deck and then price down the PlayStation Portal handheld in order to compete with Steam Deck. Otherwise I personally see no hope in both regular pc gaming and console gaming I guess, and at the end Steam Deck would eventually end up destroying both of playstation and xbox. So the same goes for Xbox even.
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(09-23-2024, 02:33 PM)monikagreyy Wrote:  I see where you’re coming from, and it does feel like Sony and Microsoft are in a tough spot with the rise of devices like the Steam Deck. Contracting more exclusive AAA games could definitely help, but bringing back the "OtherOS" feature to make the PS5 a hybrid console-PC would be a bold move. If they also made the PlayStation Portal more affordable, it could stand a chance against the Steam Deck. Without moves like these, it’s hard to see how traditional console gaming will keep up in the long run, especially if devices like the Steam Deck continue to grow.
(01-20-2024, 05:54 AM)Jotaku Wrote:  After a year of use, I think Steam Deck is absolutely amazing providing both pc and console gaming experiences at very reasonable price, and it provides tons of emaultors as well such as NES, Snes, Sega Saturn, PS1 to PS3, PS Vita, even Nintendo Switch games. That isn't all as you can install even Windows 11 on it and access to all the business tools so you can make money out of it plus all the Android games through the BlueStack emulator using a fancy Steam Deck native controller, beating all other mobile gaming users with haptic experiences.
Definitely it can threaten the whole current gaming markets by also offering AAA games on such a small handheld, in which Nintendo Switch can't do. It got hugely succeeded and now even released OLED version of it recently.
The only solution I see is that Sony really needs to contract "more exclusive games" preventing AAA titles to be released on PC, or to bring back the "OtherOS" feature from PS3 for turning PS5 into stronger PC than Steam Deck and then price down the PlayStation Portal handheld in order to compete with Steam Deck. Otherwise I personally see no hope in both regular pc gaming and console gaming I guess, and at the end Steam Deck would eventually end up destroying both of playstation and xbox. So the same goes for Xbox even.

Sorry, it seems like this is something I wrote a while ago, but my thoughts have changed a bit since then.

The Steam Deck definitely offers a hybrid gaming environment between console and PC, but the issue is that it's based on a PC gaming platform, with SteamOS or Linux Wine emulating Windows gaming. This means that if you're playing multiplayer, other players are basically using keyboard and mouse (KBM). What I'm saying is, in single-player games, the Steam Deck poses no problem at all. However, from the perspective of this website, Anime Esports Gaming, and specifically esports, this means you're going to be fighting against KBM players while using a controller, which is a clear disadvantage. It's difficult to beat KBM with a controller, especially in FPS games. If the Steam Deck's basic OS was like PlayStation OS, where everyone uses controllers, or if Valve recommended Steam Deck-exclusive servers for all multiplayer games, it might solve the issue... but of course, that's impossible.

Sure, you could connect KBM to the Steam Deck and fight on equal footing with PC gamers. However, the Steam Deck primarily provides a controller, and that’s the only limitation or the flaw of Steam Deck I see: It's a great machine for casual gamers. Because of this, if you're trying to showcase your pro gaming skills with a controller, consoles are always a better option because that is the place where they get valued the most.

Nowadays, with cloud gaming technologies like PlayStation Now or Xbox Game Pass, the barriers between console and PC are gradually breaking down. You can enjoy PS or Xbox games on a PC, or vice versa.

Also, the recent PS5 Pro was introduced at a price nearly comparable to that of a PC. So,

  1. There’s virtually no price difference between PC and console now, which is opposite to the era long time ago when the PC price was huge while console like Famicom (NES) was introduced at much cheaper price.
  2. People who grew up playing on consoles are more likely to keep playing on consoles, and similarly, people who grew up playing PC games are more likely to stick with PC gaming as they grow older. When console players switch to PC gaming, they face difficulties, especially in competitive games, and the reverse is also true. This is one of the reasons why people don't easily switch platforms. Take the Wavedash technique in Tekken as an example. I've been gaming on both PC and consoles for over 20 years, so I can perform Wavedash quite fast using both of the KBM and controller. However, it's impossible for me to do that fast with a fightstick. This is because I never used a fight stick while growing up and am completely unfamiliar with arcade lever. I practiced for over a month recently, but high-speed Wavedashing was still impossible for me with a fightstick (here’s the video to let you understand how much SPEED I meant).



Regarding the OS… if there’s already little to no price difference, I believe consoles should also support something like OtherOS to allow them to function more like PCs. At the very least, the PS5 Pro, which is priced the same as a computer, should have OtherOS support. For competitive gamers, the choice between console or PC will likely boil down to whether they’re more comfortable with a controller or with KBM (keyboard and mouse).

To summarize, I think people who are used to controllers will keep playing on consoles, those who are used to KBM will stick to PC, and casual gamers will opt for devices like the Steam Deck or Nintendo Switch.

I believe the reason the Steam Deck is gaining popularity is that it targets casual gamers, much like the Nintendo Switch. Both devices even have docking stations. However, if these gamers ever venture into competitive gaming, I predict they’ll ultimately have to choose between KBM or a console controller.

Personally, as an anime game gamer, I don’t really mind either way. As long as I can play anime games or anime-styled games, I’m fine. I’ve been gaming on both platforms for over 10 years, so I’m familiar with both.

That said, I think I’ll keep buying the Steam Deck. The reason, speaking as a competitive PvP gamer, is as follows:

  1. The competitive gaming or esports market is overwhelmingly larger on PC than on consoles. Therefore, being skilled with KBM is far more important than being skilled with a controller. And of course, this is possible with the Steam Deck when connected to a docking station and KBM. Streamers, of course, would need to purchase an i7 computer rather than a Steam Deck, but that’s a different case.
  2. Since I mainly play PvP games, I only play high-quality, casual games (e.g., JRPGs) occasionally. This is easily doable with Xbox Game Pass, PS Now, or Steam. By "casual," I don’t mean games that lack artistic merit, but rather non-competitive, non-PvP games.
  3. The versatility is unmatched. With the Steam Deck, I can play on a TV, a monitor, sitting down, lying down, or even using it like a gaming laptop if I use UPerfect’s LapDock. Can’t the Switch do that too? Unfortunately, the Switch has neither the recognition nor the titles for competitive PvP gaming compared to PC, so as a PvP gamer, I believe the Steam Deck is the better choice.

These are the three reasons why I’ll continue to purchase the Steam Deck until the pricing for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate or PS Plus Premium or Geforce Now would decrease their prices by half of the current prices of their streaming services LOL (Because, as I said I occasionally play non-PvP games like JRPG games so that I feel current pricing of those cloud gaming services as of now are pretty expensive for PVP-main gamers. For example, if Xbox Game Pass Ultimate prices down by half plus they support non-Xbox Store games like Steam games through the cloud streaming, then I wouldn't buy a new computer and console thing at all, which include Steam Deck, but I would just stick to Cloud services even if they provide higher input lag, which is acceptable for me as I already know myself that I have leveraged that by lower cost for my gaming life)

And also Steam Deck will not be destroying both PC and console gaming due to the reason above.
Jotaku, Anime Game Gamer
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